[CHM 112] Quiz 7 question
Andrew J. Pounds
pounds_aj at mercer.edu
Fri Jul 10 17:16:14 EDT 2020
On 7/10/20 1:57 PM, wrote:
> Hi dr pounds. I’m still confused on what to put for the bound, and the
> x. Currently it’s 50/50 for me to get the right x. On quiz 7 when I
> type 1.11-((2x)^2)/((.5-2x)^2)(.5-x)
>
> The bound should be {0,.5} right? Because .5 minus .5 is 0. But I end
> up getting .375 instead of the correct x value.
>
>
In your example the bound would be {0,0.25} because (0.5-2(0.25))=0.
Let me set up your example and provide my three rules for setting the
bounds and how to set the initial value of $x$.
Here is what you are trying to solve...
$1.11=\frac{(2x)^2}{(0.5-2x)^2(0.5-x)}$
To look for the bounds:
1. Isolate your search ONLY to the terms with negative signs in them.
In this case that is $(0.5-2x)$ and $(0.5-x)$.
2. For both terms find the value of $x$ that makes the entire expression
in parenthesis equal to zero. In this case it would be $x=0.25$ and $x=0.5$
3. Whichever one of these is SMALLER is your upper bound. In this case
that is $x=0.25}.
Once you set the initial bounds you then have to set an initial value
for x. ANY NUMBER between 0 and the upper bound should work there. In
this particular example you could probably leave it at zero - or you
could set it to 0.1 which is what I would do.
> I don’t get the the thought process behind determining what the bound
> is. Especially when a number can’t cleanly multiply to equal zero.
> For example the latest quiz had in the law of mass action, for the
> reactants, it’s ((2-3x)^2). I couldn’t find a clear number that would
> result in 2-2=0, so I did trial and error and I got lucky. Can you
> think out loud for me? Surely there’s more to it than that.
Hopefully my comments above helped with this. In the case of an
expression like:
$(2-3x)$
think about doing the following...
$2-3x=0$
$2=3x$
$x=\frac{2}{3}$
That should work every time if the rest of your expression is set up
correctly in solver.
As always - keep asking if you are confused.
--
Andrew J. Pounds, Ph.D. (pounds_aj at mercer.edu)
Professor of Chemistry and Computer Science
Director of the Computational Science Program
Mercer University, Macon, GA 31207 (478) 301-5627
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: imdknpabdfonfhop.
Type: image/png
Size: 204 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: hnpajaffpbjncepl.
Type: image/png
Size: 930 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0001.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: plflhegbliaefbom.
Type: image/png
Size: 565 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0002.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: gkkacgpjgnbndilm.
Type: image/png
Size: 500 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0003.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: oliekbfpbhbnepaj.
Type: image/png
Size: 446 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0004.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: jioanmgbmkifdpih.
Type: image/png
Size: 391 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0005.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: mndghmbfmhnmgejb.
Type: image/png
Size: 485 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0006.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: ocdinblnmikfjnnh.
Type: image/png
Size: 456 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0007.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: ckcbfonnomgikgfn.
Type: image/png
Size: 360 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0008.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: bodjmppmhnimahpm.
Type: image/png
Size: 348 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://theochem.mercer.edu/pipermail/chm112/attachments/20200710/a6e5a2e5/attachment-0009.png>
More information about the chm112
mailing list